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Site:
Voter.com
URL: www.voter.com
Screen captured:5:00 p.m.Nov. 7, 2000
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Questions
for Discussion
How are online
journalists using the Internet to tell the story of the 2000 presidential
election?
- What are your
initial impressions of this site?
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- How is this site
using writing to tell the story?
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| 1.
What are your initial impressions
of this site? |
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Politics.com
Spielmann,
4:48 p.m.: First impression:
Politics.com
doesn't look promising.
The
polls have been open all day now.
The
site leads with the headline "What's Up," which is only
marginally more informational than "click here" (it
took 40 seconds to load) It hardly seems worth the wait.
The
sitešs lead is: Governor George Bush has added to
his lead over Vice President Al Gore in their battle
for the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White
House. With 11 days to go, Bush is 46 votes short ...
Eleven
days to go to the election! I can hardly wait. The U.S.
Postal Service's bulk mail department could deliver
more timely prognostication than that.
This
is headlined as: "Check out the latest electoral analysis
with Hal Bruno."
Hal,
call your agent. And the site producer at Politics.com,
if they're in today, which seems doubtful.
A
political cartoon by mopaul.com decorates the upper
right-hand corner; the cartoon plays to least-common-denominator
cynicism, with worried-looking choirs behind Bush and
an especially poorly drawn Gore harmonizing in "God
help us." The caption is "Gimme that old time pre-election
religion." The cartoon at least is more timely than
the "news," since it refers to events of Sunday.
The
page promises an electoral vote tracker, which "cannot
be displayed" at 4:18 p.m. This sort of map would be
essential to any site. I'll be watching to see when
it becomes available, and how quickly it is updated.
The
site then offers a grab bag of news, bylined and not,
from CBS, AP, Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and ABC
News.
Opinion
follows, from the USAToday's Walter Shapiro ("Viva Democracy"),
LAT Times Maria LaGanga ("Goodbye Loser"), and Thomas
Oliphant of the Boston Globe ("Thank God it's almost
over"), a 2-1 ratio in favor of fashionable cynicism.
The
site just ran an update at 4:40 P.M. ... "a Matt Drudge
update: Early polls -- Bush is breaking ahead..." This
says it came from Drudge at 2:59 p.m.
Looks
to me like this site may not survive the political season,
at least without a major overhaul.
Over to you!
Pazdera,
5:36:
Egad, what a mess! It takes like a billion years to
load the Hal Bruno thing and once I got it, it was a
dreadfully long column of stuff. I can't make heads
or tails outta it. Graphs and graphs of numbers and
stats. Makes my math-phobic head swim. And, I love that
11-day lag. Modern technology triumphs! I love the shopping
and job boards link. They've got something for everyone.
However, I think they should stick with making sure
they can provide what they're advertising: political
news, and get it right before venturing into yahoo-land....
Overall, I'm with you on this one. Man, it has so much
potential, but doesn't realize it.
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Voter.com
Pazdera,
4:47 p.m.:
Well, I was a little reluctant about approaching voter.com,
figuring it would be boring, but it actually offers
up some interesting tidbits and is quite useful.
This
site tries to cover the national elections like a killer
smog with a combination of original content and links
to major national outlets. For the most part, it succeeds
with its mission.
It's
a virtual link a-go-go with leads to races throughout
the nation, as well as campaign finance, candidate appearance
schedules (which on Election Day is a moot point, but
I'll forgive them).
I
will be intrigued to see how well the site will keeps
up with its promise of providing real-time returns as
the night progresses. Hoping they won't have a stampede
that will crash their servers and keep us from seeing
that cool map on the front page from lighting up with
colored states, declaring projected winners.
At
first glance, I was stunned (stunned, I tell you) to
see one of their reporters
boldly declare that Bush will get a slim majority
of the popular vote.
This
isn't all inside baseball....there's actually stuff
that appeals to the most casual political-watcher: there's
a story
about how snow in some states may affect the
vote. I don't know why I am fascinated by such trivial
stuff, but I rather enjoyed the fact that there weren't
just stories about the polls and pundits.
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Spielmann,
5:23: My
server can't open voter.com
at about 5 p.m., so I'll have to take your word on these
pages. (Update--finally got it open at 5:20).
It sounds like Voter.com actually delivers on what Politics.com
promises -- timely information on the developments that
political junkies, or even typical citizens with an
active interest in democracy and governance, would want
to know about.
TV has done an excellent job for decades now, in updating
the electoral state map, so it's going to be interesting
to see how this (and other) sites keep up with that.
If the Web sites just parrot what Matt Drudge or the
TV networks announce, I don't see the point in logging
on. There's got to be some added value.
I like the fact that the electoral map isn't already
colored in with which way the states were "leaning,"
so there's not this sense of George W. inevitability
hanging over us.
The banner headline claim that "Bush will win (popular
vote)" seems a bit of cheap tabloid-ism to me. I have
a feeling that one will be coming down for an update
soon.
I was just having a quick look at Vote.com, in the interval,
and they are up to something completely different. They
offer the Web surfer the chance to "vote" on polling
issues such as "Which is more important -- issues or
character"? The results of these Internet self-selecting
polls may not be statistically valid, and I could well
imagine political partisans trying to stack the deck
by mass e-mailing replies, but it least it's an engaging
site. It has a nice link to similar poll results on
questions in Australia, Japan, South Korea and Britain.
Just for those of us who may be getting tired of American
politics, but still need a daily dose of politics and
polling.
See you in 15 minutes
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Pazdera,
5:36 p.m.: I
agree that the "Bush will win the popular vote"-story
is a bit tabloidy, but we're all starving for something...anything
that will make us feel like the site is on top of things.
I mean, we still have to wait hours before anything
of substance trickles in, so I look upon this bold tidbit
as an appetizer. Your inclusion of vote.com is good...I
think their polls are a little "no-duh," but it's pretty
useful.
Viva
democracy!
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| 2.
How
is the site using interactivity
to tell the story? |
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Politics.com
Spielmann,
7:02:Well,
Politics.com is back up, after a half-hour period in
which I was getting messages saying I "may not be authorized
to view" that site. The ebb and flow of the site is
quickly becoming as tension-fraught -- at least to me
-- as the presidential race itself.
Our topic now is interactivity, and it would seem to
me that simply being able to log on and read or view
a site would be the first criterion. Enough said.
Politics.com has updated its report now with Bush evidently
taking two states, but it cites CNN, and links you to
CNN.com. I appreciate the link -- it shows evidence
of some consideration of interactivity -- but it again
defeats the whole concept of the site. Why log on to
this one if they are going to just dish out others'
reports, or send you to them via link?
It does seem to be a virtual admission of defeat by
Politics.com in tonight's coverage, compared with Voter.com
or various others, such as CNN.com or USAToday.com.
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Voter.com
Pazdera,
7:01:
Well, I'm afraid my dire prediction about a stampede
of users jamming the site has come true...at least as
of 6:30 p.m. ET. That's not good, given the polls haven't
even closed yet.
In
a fit of needing something to look at, I strolled over
to http:www.politicsonline.com. But, darn it, I am bummed
because the link to real time election results is not
live yet. And, as of 6:50 p.m., I know that Bush has
gotten 20 electoral votes because we've got CNN on TV.
And, I will add, the real-time results are merely links
to other sites...one of which is the now ill-fated voter.com.
Sigh.
And the Webcast http://www.politicsonline.com/pol2000/
webcast_pressrelease.asp isn't going to start until
9 p.m. On the plus side, I am happy to see that said
Web cast will be bilingual (English and Spanish).
Not to be overly cranky, but the "battleground states"
tease link http://www.politicsonline.com
/pol2000/election_returns.asp is simply a link to
that particular state's supervisor of elections. If
I wanted to go fishing, I would have brought a rod and
reel for this site.
And, I had to laugh when I saw a link to a San Francisco
Chronicle story http://www.sfgate.com/
cgi-bin/ article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/ 2000/11/06/BU71390.DTL&type=business
about how political Web sites haven't garned much interest.
Until tonight.
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Pazdera,
7:17: What
passes for interactivity is pretty sad, I'll agree.
I don't feel like clicking around this site. It doesn't
look like anything's been updated for hours (or days,
in one instance).
To its credit, I do like the forums...I think giving
people an opportunity to vent is good. Even if they
aren't always lucid.
That's all for now.
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Spielmann,
7:30:
Net news is a growth industry, and grow it must. However,
it's pretty clear that the boutique politics sites have
certainly been outstripped by some of the mainstream
news sites. It appears that the politics.com site and
the other special interest sites we've seen lack the
mass audience to support sufficient resources, such
as reporters and producers, early in the campaign, when
they could hypothetically be a real service. And then
on Election Day, they're left in the dust by the big
news organizations.
Election night is a time for closure, for sifting out
winners from losers. In politics, as in business --
including the news business -- the race seems to go
to those with the deepest pockets, as odd an image as
that may conjure up.
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Spielmann,
7:20:Thanks
so much for alerting me to the SF Chronicle story which
explains that http:Politics.com is about one step from
the grave, emblematic of many political Web sites that
failed to gather much interest this year. The story
relates how a last lonely staffer is trying to update
the site's postings tonight, which explains the problems.
It sounds like an excruciating situation. I do still
wish the site would take down the 11-day-old polling
and Hal Bruno stuff.
I hear from a colleague in the newsroom that Slate.com
is linking people over to the Politics.com electoral
map, which is currently still showing the 11-day-old
"who's leaning to whom" predictions.
BULLETIN: Politics.com has just posted a Hal Bruno analysis
that announces we are only FOUR days away from the election.
So there is somebody there, but why are they doing what
they are doing?
Pazdera,
7:28: My
heart goes out to that lonely soul manning the dying
politics site. It's gonna be a long night and a painful
one, it seems.
Still, I will point out, that as of 7:30 p.m., the earlier
lauded Voter.com is still inaccessible. Too bad, because
I was looking forward to using it.
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How is the site using writing to
tell the story? |
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Spielmann,
9:01 p.m.:
Dear
Donna,
The
site I'm monitoring has now (thanks to its links) veered
completely into the realm of the surreal.
On
the page, in the Forum section, they list an announcement
along these lines: French
News Agency: Gore Wins Presidency!
This
oddity is listed among other more credible items, before
8 p.m.
Upon
following the link, we find an "opinion" page. But
this links to something that could be a mix of hoaxes
and real items:
The
delivery of information has varied this evening from
being non-existent -- during the long periods that
Voter.com and Politics.com were down or otherwise
unavailable -- to bizarre, in as this purported early
call.
The
writing I've seen tonight varies, from original material
of the sort we've long come to expect and rely on, to
the wires, network TV and CNN. Often the boutique politics
sites link to their larger, mainstream competitor's
sites. So the politics sites are giving us no more than
we are used to, and typically much later, mixed in with
outdated material and some dubious goods.
Politics.com
has varied during the evening from telling us the election
is 11 days away, to four days off, and back again, which
seems inexplicable.
Links,
as in the French News Agency's item, are all over the
map in terms of credibility and geographically.
I
see that your Voter.com wan't as wild, but that it called
Pennsylvania for Gore, then backed off. Not good.
We
expect strange political predictions from the partisan
politicians, but what explains these odd twists and
turns by apparently impartial, "expert" sites?
This
just wasn't yet the year for the specialty political
sites. They had what probably looked like a good idea
at the beginning of the year, while the NASDAQ was still
booming and there was plenty of money to fund ventures,
but after the bubble bust, they couldn't possibly muster
the resources to match the major news sites. Their writing,
their editorial credibility, and their information delivery
all suffered.
Cheers,
Peter
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Pazdera,
9:01 p.m.: Hi Peter, Woo-hoo!
I'm happy to report that Voter.com is back in business.
I
am sorry to report, however, that the producers committed
the worst gaffe so far tonight ...they originally had
Gore up 146-141, and then about a half an hour later,
backpedaled to give him a meager 123 and Bush 130. Of
course, the good thing about the Internet is you don't
have to wait until tomorrow morning to fix your errors.
They
should have some mechanism, though, that tells you they
screwed up, and that if you'd been to the site earlier,
your eyes weren't playing tricks on you. Perhaps
a little note under the map apologizing for their mistake
would be a nice penance.
Now,
on to writing.
Unfortunately,
the writing isn't the hallmark of this site. Its role
tonight is merely providing you a service. Who wins
what and where. There are some nice, readable headlines
leading you to the expected wire stories, but other
than that, it isn't gonna win awards for brilliance.
But
that's okay. The point is service, not writing,
in my mind. So, I will forgive them for their lack of
brilliant writing.
Now,
back to you.
Donna
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Spielmann,
9:26 p.m: Dear Donna, I
think my ideal web site would be:
- reliable
- honest
in backtracking if they made a bad call
- feature
bright writing and penetrating analysis
- offer
graphics, video or other non-textual material
- provide
innovative links.
What
we've seen tonight from the specialty sights has fallen
short on almost every count.
Voter.com
provided a fairly up-to-date electoral vote map, but
it was no better than, or frequently behind, CNN's TV
coverage. From the viewpoint of the consumer, why would
you sit staring at your computer screen if you could
get the same information more easily by just keeping
an eye on the TV -- or for that matter, an ear on the
radio?
Politics.com
seriously lagged and had the strange 11-day or 4-day-before
the election angle, a strong signal to the Web surfer
that they were not paying attention to their own site.
Perhaps their performance could serve as a useful guide
to what one producer can do on election night, but I
doubt that many sites would want to replicate the experiment.
Voter.com
was ahead, but as you note, flip-flopped on whether
Gore had won Pennsylvania or not. Web sites should be
obligated to explain their sudden zigzags, at least
for a reasonable period of time -- perhaps four to six
hours?
The
writing and analysis has been adequate, no more. It
wouldn't drive me away from the newspaper, radio, TV
or wire coverage.
The
non-textual material was nothing special. The maps and
graphics were TV quality, which is to say, about as
good as TV had this year or even 12 years to 16 years
ago.
Links
provided by the site I monitored -- Politics.com --
ranged from the obvious (AP, Reuters, CNN, MSNBC) to
the bizarre (Gore Wins! say the French).
Over
to you.
Cheers,
Peter
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Pazdera,
9:22 p.m.: Hi
Peter,
Hmmm...maybe the French
had a psychic on staff, or they just wanted to go to
bed at 2:30 a.m. Regardless, that's a bad idea to call
a race with little to base their opinions on. I can
only hope most ex-pats will be looking at the revered
U.S. sites and CNN/MSNBC, and won't be swayed by this
dubious source of information.
Politics.com seems to have
come around as more returns have poured in. The links
to major stories are a welcome sign, given the paucity
of fresh copy earlier in the day.
Good point about how this
year wasn't the year for these smaller "boutique" sites.
I think this is their inaugural go-round, and will separate
the serious providers of information from the posers.
I think by the time the next election rolls around,
we'll see a much better-prepared batch of Web sites.
Until next time,
Donna
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Spielmann,
9:41 p.m.:
Dear Donna,
I may have to eat my earlier
words, as now CNN has Gore ahead in the electoral tally,
so maybe the French have as exquisitely fine taste in
punditry as they do in wines, food, and a variety of
other talents. But the race is clearly a cliffhanger,
so it was a weird call. I can't believe that link was
serious, but there was no clear internal clue that it
was a hoax.
The links to major sites
at Politics.com leave me cold. It's like clipping articles
out of the newspaper, pasting them in a scrapbook, and
peddling the result. I'll stick to the major sites in
the future. I doubt that Politics.com will be around
in the next incarnation, though the domain name is so
attractive that it may live on when someone else buys
it out.
My feeling is that these
specialty websites will be lucky to survive.
Postscript: Hal Bruno --
Politics.com's poster boy -- is on CNN TV right now
providing analysis of the upper Midwest voting patterns!
So that's where he's been all night! Obviously he sees
where the future is, at least in the foreseeable future
-- at CNN, not on Politics.com.
That's a wrap.
Goodnight,
Peter
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Pazdera
9:45 p.m.: Dear
Peter, It's been
surprisingly interesting to track the progress of how
online sites handled the election.
Many of these sites, clearly,
are not accustomed to dealing with a big, breaking story,
which is why the Bigs like MSNBC.com and CNN.com were
kicking their electronic butts.
These little sites offer
the advantage of educational background material to
users. Stuff like Congressional candidates' information
is important, and generally something you won't find
on larger sites.
I think it's probably asking
too much to expect these small sites to write brightly
and intelligently -- on deadline -- with their small
resources. However, I do think post-election analysis
is where these little sites can shine brighter.
The graphics, links and
maps are very valuable, and can only get better.
In all, I think these smaller
sites can learn how to handle major, breaking news,
and combine their expertise of being a focused entity
to provide users with something very valuable in the
future.
Good night.
Donna
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